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vice president biden said while rates have to go up it's negotiable what exact rate it is. whether it goes all the way up to the top rate to 39.6 like the clinton days. it seems like there is wiggle room on both sides. that may be where we get a deal if these two sides get together next week, shep. >> shepard: u.s. officials say the syrian regime has begun preparing for use a nerve gas, one that's capable of killing thousands of people. the question is is the syrian president bashar assad ready to unleash a chemical weapon on his own people. the latest analysis coming up. don't expect to start using your cell phones on airplanes. at least not yet. it could soon be okay to use your ipad, kindle and laptop takeoff and landing at least if one government heavy hitter gets his way. friday fox report.fi try pepto-bismol to-go, it's the power of pepto, but it fits in your pocket. now tell the world daniel... of pepto-bismol to-go. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and tex
vice president biden said while rates have to go up it's negotiable what exact rate it is. whether it goes all the way up to the top rate to 39.6 like the clinton days. it seems like there is wiggle room on both sides. that may be where we get a deal if these two sides get together next week, shep. >> shepard: u.s. officials say the syrian regime has begun preparing for use a nerve gas, one that's capable of killing thousands of people. the question is is the syrian president bashar assad...
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. ♪ >>shepard: this is vice president biden speaking at an event regarding the fiscal cliff and laying out the proposal that the president has already issued on this matter. this is a play back from the white house pool in allege -- arlington, virginia, and continuing the breaking news great before commercial bring, the united states supreme court has made the decision to take up not one but two gay marriage cases involving california's proposition 8 which? >>guest: ensure bans gay marriage saying marriage between a man and a woman, and supreme court will hear that because there was another court that oversaw it can now it is passed up and the defense of marriage act, some technical details and differences in law but the court decided to take up both of the cases, gay marriage and whether it should be constitution am, whether people who are gay should have the same rights and freedoms under the constitution a people who are sexually oriented, heterosexuals or should they be discriminated against, that is what the supreme court will decide, hearing it as early as manner with a decision,
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president biden asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. but our goal should be generating revenue by creating new taxpayers not new taxes. >>> so alex, the question, your initial question, can it get done? the answer is yes. joe biden joked yesterday he could run it up to the hill from the white house in 15 minutes and run it back and have the president sign it. maybe not that quick. but most people believe if the will is there and votes are there it could get done in relatively short order. >> that's the big question. the vice president would only be able to ge
president biden asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain...
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and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know, i think at this point, pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this on taxes. i think we understand that. but to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion and any specifics with this president about the real problem, which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending. and obsessions to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is, doing something abou
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vice president biden doing something similar today. what does the president hope to accomplish with visits like that and photo opes like this. >> this is a movie where we have a spoiler alert where we know the ending here. it goes one of two ways. we have taxes go up for everyone or the rich. president obama is making it clear to john boehner who aappears to be anyway public denial to try to stall time to prevent that from happening. >> is that the goal whether he comes out and has press conferences like that, is he posturing? what is he doing, if the end has already been decided. >> i don't know if it's been decided, but there's inevitablity here. the way it works is this is not an even fight where the republicans and democrats start in a certain way. if nothing happens, taxes go up at the new year, and that's a problem for republicans. it's a better hand for democrats. the alternatives is taxes go up for everyone or the top 2%. that's an inevitable reality. i think john boehner has a lot of completing political interest here. he has
vice president biden doing something similar today. what does the president hope to accomplish with visits like that and photo opes like this. >> this is a movie where we have a spoiler alert where we know the ending here. it goes one of two ways. we have taxes go up for everyone or the rich. president obama is making it clear to john boehner who aappears to be anyway public denial to try to stall time to prevent that from happening. >> is that the goal whether he comes out and has...
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joe biden the vp greeting army/navy players before kickoff. navy in white. scored with five minutes to go on a quarterback keeper. that's keenan reynolds. now army they were trying to end a ten year drought to these guys. they were driving over a minute left. they were in the red zone when harry dixon fumbled it away. the midshipmen make it 11 straight over the football rival final from philadelphia 17-13. >>> nba, and the warriors -- they are not fooling around at all. they just wrapped up business in the nation's capital. now hold on to something. steph curry got hurt. playing defense here. got clipped. yeah tweaked that ankle and left the game but he did return. three minutes left the w.s getting all the bounces. missed rebound clay thompson. he hits his fifth three pointer of the night. warriors up six. next possession, look at david lee get loose with the left hand. lee scored 24 points. 17 rebounds. warriors win it 101-97. at the 20 game mark, the warriors are 13-17. >>> it went viral on the internet this week. when 49er head coach jim harbaugh had an
joe biden the vp greeting army/navy players before kickoff. navy in white. scored with five minutes to go on a quarterback keeper. that's keenan reynolds. now army they were trying to end a ten year drought to these guys. they were driving over a minute left. they were in the red zone when harry dixon fumbled it away. the midshipmen make it 11 straight over the football rival final from philadelphia 17-13. >>> nba, and the warriors -- they are not fooling around at all. they just...
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vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >> perry, i'm wondering if these new unemployment numbers add to the president's leverage? >> i think they do. the big thing is the election. but the jobs numbers suggest that the economy is doing well and it cuts against the republican argument that raising taxes on the rich with would hurt the economy and the economy is fragile. the numbers though that the economy is not fragile and that would improve the economy's leverage. he's still doing so many public events. he is trying to use that public pressure to sort of force the republicans to cut a deal. >> doing this public stuff
vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >>...
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. >> if he can't, maybe he could do enlist joe biden to go and sort of say it at an opportune time. >> he has shown great leader 14i7 on this issue, and i'm confident he will continue. >> not taking the opportunity to bash the president. i'm sure he appreciates it. thank you for your time, as always. >> sure. zirjts coming up, boxing legend receives some prefight words of wisdom from the great philosopher mitt romney. we will take a look at the romney's big night in vegas just ahead. >> she created mother-in-law kim chi. she's using nonethnic packaging to peel to a mass market, and it's now carried in whole foods and fresh markets. for more watch your business this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief
. >> if he can't, maybe he could do enlist joe biden to go and sort of say it at an opportune time. >> he has shown great leader 14i7 on this issue, and i'm confident he will continue. >> not taking the opportunity to bash the president. i'm sure he appreciates it. thank you for your time, as always. >> sure. zirjts coming up, boxing legend receives some prefight words of wisdom from the great philosopher mitt romney. we will take a look at the romney's big night in...
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joe biden said they'll put you all back in chains, we've had the race card, the war on women card, the class warfare cards. >> you can take a lot o of quots and mitt romney said corporations aren't people. he didn't care about the poor. only 47% of america is disto disavow. >> this will not stop with you guys. give me an example where they played the race card this year, give me one example. >> there's been many times. >> name one. >> when both sides have engaged in the type. >> name one. this is what mitt romney said on the 47%. >> it's racist? >> i didn't call it racist. >> give me an example of racist. >> i didn't call it racist. >> give me an example of the race card being played. give me one example. >> sean, what i'm saying is that there is speech out there that is being taken out of context and it's not helpful. i did not hear the president of the united states calling republicans evil. >> well, remember that the president of the united states who is supposed to represent all of the people once he's electedd referred to his political opponents, i guess that's you and me, the wor
joe biden said they'll put you all back in chains, we've had the race card, the war on women card, the class warfare cards. >> you can take a lot o of quots and mitt romney said corporations aren't people. he didn't care about the poor. only 47% of america is disto disavow. >> this will not stop with you guys. give me an example where they played the race card this year, give me one example. >> there's been many times. >> name one. >> when both sides have engaged...
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and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group. my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago. and for that matter, in the joint select commit teach. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline i think he has an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of commerce. if you looked at the plans the white house talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. bill: john boehner, direct, to the point. you need a plan that can pass both the house and the senate. that's where we are right now on the fiscal cliff. december 5th is it? there it is on the calendar. quick break more of what eric cantor said just moments ago. martha: during his 42 years in congress brooks is best known for voting to significantly cut government spending and to pass several historic laws including the civ
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vice president joe biden was out. he reiterated those two nonnegotiable demands on the part of the administration but said the actual amount of that top rate doesn't necessarily have to be 39.6. >> there are two irreducible minimum requirements. one, the top brackets have to go up. this is not a niabl issue. the second thing is, we have to have a mechanism to stop the brinksmanship on dealing with the national debt. >> now of course, this doesn't necessarily signal a turn in the talks between the administration and the congress. but there is the possibility that you have staff level discussions that continue to go on and we're just going to have to see over the next three weeks whether they can make a break. sometimes it looks darkest before the dawn. >> many thanks john howard. back to our panel. kerry, on this show last night, senator rand paul basically said you know what, no filibuster in the senate. let the democrats put their bill up and he will vote for it and make it a democratic tax hike period. end of senten
vice president joe biden was out. he reiterated those two nonnegotiable demands on the part of the administration but said the actual amount of that top rate doesn't necessarily have to be 39.6. >> there are two irreducible minimum requirements. one, the top brackets have to go up. this is not a niabl issue. the second thing is, we have to have a mechanism to stop the brinksmanship on dealing with the national debt. >> now of course, this doesn't necessarily signal a turn in the...
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he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by josh green, new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells, former communications chair karen finney, "washington post's" melinda headen burger and carrie kennedy. for a twitter tutorial, follow @nowwithalex on your twitter machine. "amount reports" is coming up next. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪
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you biden of -- on the economic collapse. it's going to raise the price. a number of products and clothing and soldiers and equipment were the department's, logistics' agency in the army has put together these kind of on the bus contracts pressing the contractor can pull from the commercial world and as long as a deal with commercial specs and the contractor guarantees equality, you get these things as commercial rates and equal or better quality than the hammer you get if it was designed with an affirmative defense. >> host: go ahead. >> guest: one of the interesting things that is happening and what used to be called the defense industrial base, know what to call it that anymore. i called the american industrial and technology base, of which the defense department is bucking the things it needs, we see a huge evolution in there. much less of this exclusive company to exclusive dod provider. much more involvement of the broader u.s. technology and industrial capabilities. supplying department of defense. one of the consequences of that is what dennis talk
you biden of -- on the economic collapse. it's going to raise the price. a number of products and clothing and soldiers and equipment were the department's, logistics' agency in the army has put together these kind of on the bus contracts pressing the contractor can pull from the commercial world and as long as a deal with commercial specs and the contractor guarantees equality, you get these things as commercial rates and equal or better quality than the hammer you get if it was designed with...
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they did not agree on much in the presidential race, but it's clear mitt romney and joe biden share a love of bargains, both of them shopping at costco recently. and the baltimore sun has this headline on their front page -- the storm caused $127 million of damage in maryland. now to republican caller in california, sandy. caller: i just went through an experience with my mother who went from the hospital to a nursing home and was told she could not have any rehabilitation services, that she was only allowed to stay in the nursing home seven days. then we had to make arrangements with hospice. they will all the paper that seven days. and she has to pay for everything else honor own. if hospice came to her house, she will have to pay. she paid into medicare many years. i think all seniors need to be aware and be prepared that this is what will happen to them. that's my experience. host: in philadelphia, rick is a democratic caller. caller: i cannot believe i got through. the last time i spoke with c- span was 2003. give me about a minute and 30 seconds. host: go! caller: i think barack
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new poll that shows hillary clinton the top contender in 2016 followed by america's happy warrior joe biden at 16%. senator elect elizabeth warren comes in at 4%. what's the takeaway for you, angela? >> i think that people appreciate the fact that secretary clinton has demonstrated clear leadership at the state department, and they think it's her turn. it's her time. >> angela, matt, dave, thank you all so much. do appreciate your time. and thanks to you as well for spending time with us this sundays afternoon. that will do it for me right now. keep it here on msnbc for the latest news. i'll be back next saturday 2:00 until 5:00 eastern on saturday. 3:00 until 5:00 eastern on sunday. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. have a fantastic sundays night. [ dylan ] this is one way to keep your underwear clean. this is another! ta-daa! try charmin ultra strong. it cleans so well and you can use up to four times less than the leading value brand. oh! there it is. thanks son. hey! [ female announcer ] charmin ultra strong has a duraclean texture that can help you get clean while still us
new poll that shows hillary clinton the top contender in 2016 followed by america's happy warrior joe biden at 16%. senator elect elizabeth warren comes in at 4%. what's the takeaway for you, angela? >> i think that people appreciate the fact that secretary clinton has demonstrated clear leadership at the state department, and they think it's her turn. it's her time. >> angela, matt, dave, thank you all so much. do appreciate your time. and thanks to you as well for spending time...
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joe biden took a picture with him thinking he's obama. he is the guy behind gangnam style is exposed for a song called "stare american" what which had him rap kill the bleeping yankees who ordered them to forture. kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers, kill them all slowly an painfully. now he says he is deeply sorry for how the lyrics could be interpreted so there is more than one way to interpret "kill them all"? psy would rap a different tune about the military. hi'd do the silly horse trot screaming "save me america" prodded by a commie bayonet. but i don't care. if i got upset every time a singer bashed america i'd suffer from upset paralysis. this is about the identity and the death of ours. if you placed yankees with any cooler identity other than scen color and sexual orientation he would have been tossed faster than beckel at a tea party. american is no longer exceptionm identity that unites us all, who cares? patriotism is like ribbon candy. only granny has it. it's not like it's hard to get in the white ho
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and it is exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. >> so that was speaker boehner obviously flanked by republicans. we'll get you that sound bite from the president because i want to make sure you hear both sides. here is the question i'm hearing people ask. if we go off the cliff here, how big of a hit will we take on taxs? stand by because i'm good to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie montgomery, the fiscal policy reporter for the washington post. so, laurie, welcome to you here. and your paper this morning, you ran through a couple of tax scenarios which were pretty palletable so we want to show our view whaeers what you ran through. let me run through two. we'll look at this first one. so everybody take a look at this graphic. this is scenario number one, married couple, two kids, one in c
and it is exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. >> so that was speaker boehner obviously flanked by republicans. we'll get you that sound bite from the president because i want to make sure you hear both sides. here is the...
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>> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about jobs, they talk about unemployment, and they don't want manufactured crises from washington when you could cut these tax hikes on the middle class, first order of business. >> it is fascinating. you eluded to it earlier, number of guests have talked about this as well, how we are very much in the posturing phase period as you indicated. a lot of bluster, a lot of chest thumping. one has to wonder at what point, at what point, perry, all of that ends and the real negotiating gets started. >> it's going to get close -- january 1st is getting closer. we're further from the posturing stage and further to the negotiating phase.
>> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about...
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vice president joe biden says a deal could be done in 15 minutes. all this comes as the government announces a gain of 146,000 jobs in the month of november. the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. that is the lowest in four years but that was mostly due to people who stopped looking for work. both sides agree the u.s. does not want to follow down the path of greece. what is to blame there? too much austerity or too much taxation? we'll look at the problems inside his own party, for speaker boehner. it's friday. that means the lightning round with the panel. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> bob: kay. there is music for you. on december 3 last year, 16-year-old tyler alfred from oklahoma was driving under the influence and crashed his pickup truck killing his passenger and friend 16-year-old john luke. he pleaded guilty to first degree man slaughter in august. in the muskogee county -- it's oklahoma, district judge mike norman he sided not to give him -- decided not to give him jail
vice president joe biden says a deal could be done in 15 minutes. all this comes as the government announces a gain of 146,000 jobs in the month of november. the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. that is the lowest in four years but that was mostly due to people who stopped looking for work. both sides agree the u.s. does not want to follow down the path of greece. what is to blame there? too much austerity or too much taxation? we'll look at the problems inside his own party, for speaker...
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. >> for the obama/biden campaign other than the two principles on the ticket. of course, every governor, every senator, every member of congress who was elected is also a super delegate who will choose the next president. >> jennifer: i don't see how the force -- the force the inexorable pull of this from those who support her and those who love her is just going to be too great. she needs to go to a spa. she needs to take a relaxing -- take a break. do the exercises. what she wants to do. but six months then we're back at it. all right. so you know, republicans have had some challenges appointing women. obviously we've all been talking about the number of women that were not appointed in the house republican caucus other than the one, candace miller. but the sunlight foundation, we were assuming it was because of sexism. the sunlight foundation has another theory which is that they were not appointed because they aren't as influential from a money perspective because all of the large leadership pacs on the republican side are associated with men. do you think
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vice president joe biden on hand for the game. army's trent steelman keeps it on the option and scores. army led 13-10 with less than five minutes to play but here come the mids. keenan reynolds scores, giving navy a 17-13 lead. army on the navy 14-yard line trying for the winning touchdown but the handoff is botched. navy recovers. and the mids come away with a 17-13 win to capture the commander-in-chief trophy. to college basketball, the terps hosting south carolina state. the terps were rolling from start to finish. pretty bounce pass, howard to mitchell for the two points. later, this time going up top to alex len. len, the only player in double figures with 13. another alley-oop here, this time it's dez wells on the receiving end. and later seth allen showing the outside touch, draining the three-pointer. the terps led by 13 at the break and won 61-46, their eighth straight victory. to verizon center in d.c. where pat scary and the towson tigers were facing georgetown. great tip ahead to greg whittington ahead of the pack and
vice president joe biden on hand for the game. army's trent steelman keeps it on the option and scores. army led 13-10 with less than five minutes to play but here come the mids. keenan reynolds scores, giving navy a 17-13 lead. army on the navy 14-yard line trying for the winning touchdown but the handoff is botched. navy recovers. and the mids come away with a 17-13 win to capture the commander-in-chief trophy. to college basketball, the terps hosting south carolina state. the terps were...
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vice president joe biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administration says that the president's economic policies are paying off. >> you see it in the retail industry, you see it in transportation. you see it in health care. and you see it in other sectors. you do see a continued movement that continues to show some positive growth. >> reporter: while cautioning the nation's economy is far from a full recovery, administration officials emphasize positive growth, sugge
vice president joe biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going...
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first we heard joe biden he was visiting a diner. as part of this administration p.r. campaign the president went to the toy factory. he's been with middle class people. he's had a parade of ceos marching in and out of the white house. the president is trying to build support both publicly and privately, meeting behind closed doors with nancy pelosi last night. behind this idea of raising taxes on the rich today. he said he would not compromise on that. but all along there has been the suspicion there could be that kind of compromise, that's where the wig wiggle room was. you talk to people about town close to this negotiation and close to negotiations like this over the years. they said it would likely in the end fall somewhere in between there. they could move as susan was saying that $250,000 that floor could go up somewhere around 500,000. we've asked the white house this a million different ways. they always come back to the same question. it's the revenue. but on the political side, the white house feels as though they won the election, they won that battle. and
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today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a sovble problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for rate at the top 2% but i remain optimistic we can get something done for that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> but the clock is ticking. with just two full weeks before christmas to go. joining me now from washington, the man with all the answers, cnbc's ayman jabbers. it's always so good and important to have you on the show. >> thanks. >> in general, but on days like today, where the numbers come out and we all think to ourselves, is this everything or nothing? what do these numbers mean and what do they portend for the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> it strengthens th
today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a sovble problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for rate at the...
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troops in iraq and kuwait and iraq with vice president joe biden and general commander of u.s. troops, during the fighting in gaza. senator kc --casey has said we must prevent hamas, israel has the right to set up a naval blockade, key weapons to hamas and responsibility to protect its homeland. hamas is a terrorist organization that denies israel's right to exist and indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets in at towns, is a proxy for iran and an impediment to peace in the region and he goes on to say israel's citizens deserve to live without fear. as we move forward we must do all we can to break this unbreakable bond and as he heads to a second term i have no doubt he will do that. join me in welcoming our friend senator robert casey. [applause] >> thanks so much for that introduction. i am honored to be here for so many reasons. to follow the chairman, always an honor. it -- time grateful for that but especially glad to be here today because i almost wasn't, not in a dramatic way. we were all set to have a meeting and a vote that would involve the debt ceiling. as you kn
troops in iraq and kuwait and iraq with vice president joe biden and general commander of u.s. troops, during the fighting in gaza. senator kc --casey has said we must prevent hamas, israel has the right to set up a naval blockade, key weapons to hamas and responsibility to protect its homeland. hamas is a terrorist organization that denies israel's right to exist and indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets in at towns, is a proxy for iran and an impediment to peace in the region and he...
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that bill being a high priority of vice president biden. the issue of the supplemental, i imagine, mr. speaker, the gentleman has seen the press reports that i have and that the white house is anticipating sending up a $60 billion supplemental request for damage related to sandy, and i think tomorrow would be that day. at least according to press reports. the gentleman may know that the fema director testified to the house yesterday that the agency can meet its need through the spring associated with the disaster. approximately $2 billion has been delivered with about $5 billion remaining in the disaster relief fund. so, again, no one is here saying we don'td --ut looking forward receiving that request and taking a look at the numbers and the need to make sure we can move forward on that as well. and lastly, mr. speaker, postal reform. you know, the gentleman and i have, yes, talked about this a lot. know that the issue has to do with the obligations of the postal service and how we can address those to create a more balanced prospect for t
that bill being a high priority of vice president biden. the issue of the supplemental, i imagine, mr. speaker, the gentleman has seen the press reports that i have and that the white house is anticipating sending up a $60 billion supplemental request for damage related to sandy, and i think tomorrow would be that day. at least according to press reports. the gentleman may know that the fema director testified to the house yesterday that the agency can meet its need through the spring...
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a two word answer to your question, joe biden. and which is a segue over to your question. i will say the premise of your question terms of the obama administration not having a relationship with mexico and why firing, before my summer vacation i was the main latin advisor policy for three years. this is kind of an anecdote, but 34 countries that i was responsible for, i visited no country more than, more than -- other than 13 times. i visited one country 17 times for three and half years i was in the white house. that country happens to be mexico. the intensity of the relationship between the two governments, prior government and now you are seeing with -- vice president biden going to the inaugural, and this vice president doesn't go to a lot of inaugurations. something you should read into that. it is in intensive relationship between the government, between the governments of the systems across a broad range of issues, media focuses on security questions but it goes a lot further than that. so i think you will see that continuing to emigration is a complicated question
a two word answer to your question, joe biden. and which is a segue over to your question. i will say the premise of your question terms of the obama administration not having a relationship with mexico and why firing, before my summer vacation i was the main latin advisor policy for three years. this is kind of an anecdote, but 34 countries that i was responsible for, i visited no country more than, more than -- other than 13 times. i visited one country 17 times for three and half years i was...
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when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: craig, as someone who spent some time in river city here in washington, i wanted to show you this. these are the inaugural stands right on pennsylvania avenue, right in front of the white house. i'm looking at them and listening to them right now. they've been going up pretty steadily. these guys work around the clock. january 21st, the president is going to be marching past the white house to live here for another four years. now, about the fiscal cliff, john boehner's in town. that's relatively rare for him to stay in town on the weekend. the president was here, but there were meetings yesterday. nancy pelosi came
when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >>...
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. >> bill: joe biden went. mitt romney decided he should go. >> he showed up in la jolla, california. he bought all kinds of things, most made in china. he bought paper plates, dixie cups wrapping paper v8 juice drinks pretzel snacks, bisquick and bottled water. he also got a model car which will be a gift for one of his grandkids made by the mysto company. >> bill: they've got a car elevator! >> good point. tmz got the run-down of what he bought. they also reached out to mysto the people who make the toy cars. none of their products are made in america. they're all made in china. >> bill: evan, you've reported, now we know from john sununu echoing mitt romney that he's in la jolla and barack obama is in the white house because obama depended on people who were dependent on government. it is just the handout, the takers are the ones who elected barack obama. >> right. the gifts argument. i think there has been a split on the language of this, whether or not the actual ideals of it. the language, split since rom
. >> bill: joe biden went. mitt romney decided he should go. >> he showed up in la jolla, california. he bought all kinds of things, most made in china. he bought paper plates, dixie cups wrapping paper v8 juice drinks pretzel snacks, bisquick and bottled water. he also got a model car which will be a gift for one of his grandkids made by the mysto company. >> bill: they've got a car elevator! >> good point. tmz got the run-down of what he bought. they also reached out...
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that bill being a high priority of vice president biden. the issue of the supplemental, i imagine, mr. speaker, the gentleman has seen the press reports that i have and that the white house is anticipating sending up a $60 billion supplemental request for damage related to sandy, and i think tomorrow would be that day. at least according to press reports. the gentleman may know that the fema director testified to the house yesterday that the agency can meet its need through the spring associated with the disaster. approximately $2 billion has been delivered with about $5 billion remaining in the disaster relief fund. so, again, no one is here saying we don't want to deliver the necessary aid to the victims because that is a priority. and -- but looking forward to receiving that request and taking a look at the numbers and the need to make sure we can move forward on that as well. and lastly, mr. speaker, postal reform. you know, the gentleman and i have, yes, talked about this a lot. know that the issue has to do with the obligations of the
that bill being a high priority of vice president biden. the issue of the supplemental, i imagine, mr. speaker, the gentleman has seen the press reports that i have and that the white house is anticipating sending up a $60 billion supplemental request for damage related to sandy, and i think tomorrow would be that day. at least according to press reports. the gentleman may know that the fema director testified to the house yesterday that the agency can meet its need through the spring...
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it's widely believed she freezes a potential democratic field that could include vice president joe biden, democratic strategist hilary rosen has her own prediction. >> i think she's going to run for president, but we're wasting our time speculating about it, she marches to her own drummer, she's not going to be rushed. >> have you talked to her at all about this, do you know if she's talked to political advisers about this? >> i have talked to her about it, and i've been shut down. >> reporter: clinton would have company. >> do you know any good diners in new hampshire or iowa. >> i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> reporter: all kidding aside, paul ryan and marco rubio already appear to be hitting on themes that seem to distance themselves from mitt romney's toc comments on people who receive government assistance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is, that the american people have changed. too many
it's widely believed she freezes a potential democratic field that could include vice president joe biden, democratic strategist hilary rosen has her own prediction. >> i think she's going to run for president, but we're wasting our time speculating about it, she marches to her own drummer, she's not going to be rushed. >> have you talked to her at all about this, do you know if she's talked to political advisers about this? >> i have talked to her about it, and i've been shut...
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joe biden saying on friday, he wasn't going to budge. the white house wasn't going to budge on whether the rates should be increased. how much? that may be negotiable. john. >> any sense of what's next? more meetings planned? >> we don't know what's next. these are the developments we'll follow this week. congress set to go on vacation at the end of the week. the expectation is if this doesn't get wrapped up, congress isn't going anywhere, and there will be a lot of folks pulling up in washington. >> might be a good idea to delay the vacation a little bit if they don't get the job done. brianna keilar in washington, nice to see you this morning. >>> top cnn trends on cnn.com. the music world is mourning jenni rivera. she died when her leer jet went down. authorities spotted the wreckage in nuevo leon. there were no survivors. >>> josh brent out of jail on $500,000 bond. investigators believe he was driving drunk when his mercedes flipped and caught fire. the practice squad linebacker jerry brown died in that crash. his miami states pulli
joe biden saying on friday, he wasn't going to budge. the white house wasn't going to budge on whether the rates should be increased. how much? that may be negotiable. john. >> any sense of what's next? more meetings planned? >> we don't know what's next. these are the developments we'll follow this week. congress set to go on vacation at the end of the week. the expectation is if this doesn't get wrapped up, congress isn't going anywhere, and there will be a lot of folks pulling up...
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actually i think they're meeting with vice president biden. then governors will be meeting with some of the congressional leadership, as well. but you guys are watching this, we know this is drama and theater. do you think a deal gets struck at the end of the day? >> i do. i have to say, i still think we'll get a last minute deal. i just cannot imagine that congress will allow to us go over the cliff. so i think the ramifications for the economy are too significant. i think we're watching whatever you want to call it, all of the politics playing out, but i still think in the end we'll get a last minute deal. >> i agree. and i think even though the sides are far apart, you have things on the table now. so you can say you're here at 800, 1.6, you kind of -- it gets you somewhere close. somebody will try to say 1.3 versus 1.1, but if you see publicly what they're stating and hopefully privately other things are going on, but it will get done, but it will be very slow. >> john boehner with the proposal he put on the table, i did see commentary fro
actually i think they're meeting with vice president biden. then governors will be meeting with some of the congressional leadership, as well. but you guys are watching this, we know this is drama and theater. do you think a deal gets struck at the end of the day? >> i do. i have to say, i still think we'll get a last minute deal. i just cannot imagine that congress will allow to us go over the cliff. so i think the ramifications for the economy are too significant. i think we're watching...
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. >> and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago, and for that matter in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him, to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know, i think at this point pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this town know where both sides are on taxes. i think we understand that. but to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion and any specifics with this president about the real problem -- stuart: speaker boehner is the principal negotiator, vis-a-vis the president on how to avoid the fiscal cliff or what we should do about tax increa
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so there was some word during the campaign when joe biden let slip that $1 million would be the threshold for which they would begin to tax the wealthest americans. marco rubio on a saturday morning addressed as well. they are going after each other. senator marco rubio and president obama in these dueling addresses. >> we must get the national debt under control. taxes will not solve our 16 trillion-dollar debt. only economic growth and form of entitlement programs will control the debt. woe must reform the job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. our goals should be to generate new revenue by creating new taxpayers not new taxes. >> let's talk about that for eakd is. president obama said we have to make the wealthest americans pay more taxes to help our debt. that number happens to be, if you do the president's plan, the raising the income rates levels on the wealthest americans from 36% to 39.6%. that number comes out to about $83 billion. about 8 or 9 days worth of funding the government. so that clearly won't fix the trillion-dollar problem per year that we have.
so there was some word during the campaign when joe biden let slip that $1 million would be the threshold for which they would begin to tax the wealthest americans. marco rubio on a saturday morning addressed as well. they are going after each other. senator marco rubio and president obama in these dueling addresses. >> we must get the national debt under control. taxes will not solve our 16 trillion-dollar debt. only economic growth and form of entitlement programs will control the debt....
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and went with vice president biden and met with the troops. he has come out in strong support of israel during the fighting in gaza last month. senator casey has said quote, the u.s. must continue to support israel in preventing the mill tar rizzation of ham ause and they have the right to set up a naval blockade to keep weapons being sent to hamas. ham asis a terrorist organization and has fired rockets at israelis and is a proxy for iran and main impediment to peace in the region and he goes on to say, israel's citizens deserve to live without fear and we must do all we can to strengthen this unbreakable bond. and i have no doubt he will continue to do all his great work. please join me in welcoming our friend, senator robert casey. [applause] >> thanks so much, ken for that introduction. i'm honored to be here for so many reasons, to follow the chairman. always an honor and so grateful for that. but i'm especially glad to be here today because i almost wasn't. not in a dramatic way. we were all set to have a meeting and then a vote that wou
and went with vice president biden and met with the troops. he has come out in strong support of israel during the fighting in gaza last month. senator casey has said quote, the u.s. must continue to support israel in preventing the mill tar rizzation of ham ause and they have the right to set up a naval blockade to keep weapons being sent to hamas. ham asis a terrorist organization and has fired rockets at israelis and is a proxy for iran and main impediment to peace in the region and he goes...
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he was hosted by vice president biden. vice president biden also went to china. he had previously studied, as chris said, in the united states. li keqiang also has met regularly with visiting american other officials. and probably -- i don't know of another chinese official who's had as much in-depth experience with international diplomacy who has ascended -- on the economic side, albeit -- but who has now risen to such a high position. so these are people that know the world and we've had some interactions with. >> explain to us this whole business of a pivot because, as i understand it, the chinese have one idea of it and we have kind of a different idea of it. what is this pivot? >> well, look, you know, the united states has always been deeply engaged in asia. for decades we have maintained strong security alliances. we have had a key role in working with china as china came out of the cultural revolution. we have worked, basically from japan to australia, in deepening relationships for decades. i think the case has been that over the course of the last decad
he was hosted by vice president biden. vice president biden also went to china. he had previously studied, as chris said, in the united states. li keqiang also has met regularly with visiting american other officials. and probably -- i don't know of another chinese official who's had as much in-depth experience with international diplomacy who has ascended -- on the economic side, albeit -- but who has now risen to such a high position. so these are people that know the world and we've had some...
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vice-president biden gets things underway with a coin toss and navy would open up the scoring, not to be outdone, army comes right back, and the quarterback with the 11 yard up the middle keeper there. and just out to the fourth. and navy down three, they go ahead with four minutes to go. and then two minutes left and as if things weren't tight enough. army with the winning score and they hand off and navy recovers with a 17-13 win and so broken up, crying, he had to be consoled by four star general, and navy has now beaten army. and you thought that college football was over for the year. >> what a great event. i live in phillies and friday nights in the city is filled with people and army thought they had it, but 11 straight. >> clayton: come on, army. let's check in with maria in for rick. >> good morning, everyone, we'll see a big shift in the weather pattern we've seen the last several weeks, very mild across the country and temperatures above average and enjoying basically very mild conditions for late fall and also early december, but a reality check is in store for many of us,
vice-president biden gets things underway with a coin toss and navy would open up the scoring, not to be outdone, army comes right back, and the quarterback with the 11 yard up the middle keeper there. and just out to the fourth. and navy down three, they go ahead with four minutes to go. and then two minutes left and as if things weren't tight enough. army with the winning score and they hand off and navy recovers with a 17-13 win and so broken up, crying, he had to be consoled by four star...
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i think joe biden will run as well. and so you're going to have two different generations at each other. and it will be an interesting contrast. if jeb bush decides that he wants to run yet again. we ould have a clinton/bush contest. >> yeah, and nobody knows, but if my impression is at a time like this when a woman has had such a rich and varied life in so many important positions, when history comes calling, you can't say no. >> well, also when everybody you meet, abroad, at home, every day tells you that you are truly the best person to be the next president of the united states, which is what a lot of people are telling her, that is hard to resist. here's one to read which is that i do hear that president bill clinton is very eager for her to run. that he sits there on his plane and he games out the scenario for what a run may look like. so if everybody including your husband is telling you to do it, that's hard to resist. >> but for the same reason, he believes in her, but also history. >> you mentioned the world,
i think joe biden will run as well. and so you're going to have two different generations at each other. and it will be an interesting contrast. if jeb bush decides that he wants to run yet again. we ould have a clinton/bush contest. >> yeah, and nobody knows, but if my impression is at a time like this when a woman has had such a rich and varied life in so many important positions, when history comes calling, you can't say no. >> well, also when everybody you meet, abroad, at home,...
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and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know, i think at this point, pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this town know where both sides are on taxes. i think we understand that. but to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion and any specifics with this president about the real problem, which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending. and obsessions to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the p
and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we are ready and...
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as political scientist, we love -- open season on vp biden will run but probably not uncontested on the democratic side. is there something specific about 2016 in terms of the rise of the tea party or the rise of diverse republicans and we ought to really be honing in on this early? >> i think when we get closer to 2016, we're going to see the fiscal fissures -- i think there are two wings of the republican party that don't agree with each other on a range of issues from climate change to immigration on a range of issues. i think we'll see those fissures come about. noticeably, there are no black contenders of the potential candidates. >> there is still a name broiling around out there. as soon as we coming, we'll stay on this issue. it's quite an interesting herd out there. i'm interested in what happens when some of the members of that herd come out. we'll talk about that when we come back. this family used capital one venture miles to come home for the holidays. that's double miles you can actually use... sadly, their brother's white christmas just got "blacked out." [ brother ] but
as political scientist, we love -- open season on vp biden will run but probably not uncontested on the democratic side. is there something specific about 2016 in terms of the rise of the tea party or the rise of diverse republicans and we ought to really be honing in on this early? >> i think when we get closer to 2016, we're going to see the fiscal fissures -- i think there are two wings of the republican party that don't agree with each other on a range of issues from climate change to...
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she was the deputy campaign manager for the obama-biden ticket suggested that mitt romney might have committed a felony on his tax returns. sunday night, she e-mailed them to reach a fiscal deal. republicans have balked at raising those tax rates. they are identified by marcus at countries job creators. >> for the first time in two decades, they are there will tell revenues go up as part is the plan. but they have to tell us what they're willing to do with revenues. it's definitely very hard for republicans. reporter: earlier you saw the meeting of four congressional leaders on november 16 at the white house. at that time, harry reid spoke of a follow-up session was to be held next week. that never helped happened and the clock ticks on. jenna: we have that clock right on our screen. just in case you forgot. jon: get ready for the baby. just into fox news, prince william and his wife, the former kate middleton, they are expecting. standing in a grocery line, looking at the tabloids, and one of them said she is pregnant. they may be onto something be till they beat the palace on this
she was the deputy campaign manager for the obama-biden ticket suggested that mitt romney might have committed a felony on his tax returns. sunday night, she e-mailed them to reach a fiscal deal. republicans have balked at raising those tax rates. they are identified by marcus at countries job creators. >> for the first time in two decades, they are there will tell revenues go up as part is the plan. but they have to tell us what they're willing to do with revenues. it's definitely very...
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i feel good about not on the conversation with president obama and vice president biden and 13, but we met with speaker boehner today and majority leader reid. i feel the same way, that at least they're listening to us for the first time, at least in my history here, about a very significant issue. so we hope to be a catalyst for good. >> let's hope for the best. governor, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you very much. >>> sounds like military make believe, but it's not p. up next, new camouflage. stay with us. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong for generations to come. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing tran
i feel good about not on the conversation with president obama and vice president biden and 13, but we met with speaker boehner today and majority leader reid. i feel the same way, that at least they're listening to us for the first time, at least in my history here, about a very significant issue. so we hope to be a catalyst for good. >> let's hope for the best. governor, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you very much. >>> sounds like military make believe, but it's...